We have the opportunity to purchase some excellent condition Beretta 92FS/M9 9mm pistols and sell them to our customers for about $350.00. They are police trade ins from the state of NC as they switched to 357 Sig. If enough people show interest, we could work a deal to purchase some in bulk and pass the savings on to our customers. Your feedback would help us with the decision making.

Sorry that's flavors I've already got a M9 and a Taurus 92. I'm sure someone here has got to be needing a 9 for that kind of price!

I should have been more observant an then changed this posting. I took a trip to inspect the pistols and learned they are actually 96's. The picture they sent me had all of the guns lieing on their right side, so I couldn't see the model number or the 40 S&W chamber call out. I was very suprised at how great of shape the guns were in after I found out they were in 40 S&W. A couple of them were loose, not bad, but noticeable. Most of the guns were very tight and cycled very smooth.

I can't figure out why State Troopers would trade in perfectly good guns in 40 S&W to buy more expensive guns in 357 Sig. It seems like splitting hairs to me. At least it put some nice guns on the market.

definatley sounds like a **** good price, i wasnt looking, but i might think about it if you get them.

Deth,

I'm not bringing them in if no one will commit to buying one. The place that has them hasn't been able to sell them, but they haven't advertised them either. I just thought we might grab them and pass them along to our Founding Members at cost if they showed some interest. We can't afford to stock a bunch of identical used guns that no one wants to buy. I'm not a big fan of 40 because it screws up my brass sorting when I reload 9mm and 45 ACP. But for people who do shoot 40, these guns are an awesome deal. I guess I don't have all of the answers. I may lose my Professor title over this one.

i understand that, im just saying i cant commit to one, but it does sound like such a good deal, i might be tempted. awesome deal, like you said. i also agree, though, about not being a fan of the 40 just seems like it so popular, im missing out on something if i dont get one!?!?

Didn't mean to bite your head off. No one knows better than me that gun buying can often be an impulse thing. That's why the internet will never replace the good old fashion gun store. There is nothing like picking up a great gun and feeling it in your hand, and then going home at night and swearing that if it is still there on Saturday, you are going to buy it. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it isn't. I remember one time when I was having a terrible week/month/life and I went to my local gun store/hang out and they had the most beautiful Kimber Gold Match with the deepest blue I'd seen outside of a Python. They were going for about $950 back then. It was really crowded and I was in a terrible mood. I didn't have the money to be buying guns, but I looked at the guy behind the counter and I said "I'll give you $800 for it". He laughed real big, then the owner walked over and said "sold".

Man was that a nice gun. It was so beautiful and accurate. I loved that gun and nobody ever believed the story of how much I paid for it. That was 1998 or 1999. Unfortunately, so many gun stores aren't worth a darn anymore. Most of them seem to think you have to know everything they know about every gun or gun company or you aren't fit to choose the brand of AR or 1911 you want. Some seem to hire some real idiots that have scared me on occasion. And some seem to think it is better to sell one or two guns a week at full MSRP rather than have lots of customers and be willing to listen to their offers on guns and gear. Where has customer service gone?

That's why we are still looking for suggestions for products for our online store from our founding members.

Regarding 40 S&W, I remember reading my American Rifleman and G&A mags back in the early 80's when the government announced it was moving from 45 to 9mm. The debate over knock down power vs magazine capacity was filling every page back then. I was just in junior high, but I rmember thinking someone should make a cartridge halfway in between. When I started reloading and I realized how much empty case space there was in a 45 ACP, I immediately wondered if you could trim a 45 ACP back to 40 S&W length and just have on grip frame size for all of the main pistol calibers. I thought surely this had been thought of before I came along. Then they introduced the 45 GAP. It could have been the 45 TIM!

American shooters are way to difficult to try to predict what gun they will like much less what cartridge they will want it chambered in. My reloading manuals are filled with cartridges that have nearly the same ballistics inside 900 yards. People will choose those cartridges based on what they can do at 1200 yards when they won't see a range over 300 yards in their lifetime. But they have a gun for it, if they need it. I do it to. Sometimes, I go to the range with nothing but my .22's to remind me that a good 22 and a shotgun will get you through most of the worlds challenges. But then I wouldn't be caught dead without my M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, M1A, or AR15. Guns and men, we are complicated. But, it keeps us out of trouble!

no problem, didnt take it that way at all

i konw what you mean about gun shops anymore, though. except for this one:



most of them would be glad to see you the "top of the line" model your looking at without telling you it EXACTLY the same thing as the other brand thats 1/2 the price. they seem to thrive on peoples ignorance latley.

besides that, it seems that alot of them THINK they know about a particular gun/company. ive heard ALOT of absurd things from people who SHOULD know better.



as far as sugestions, most of what ive been buying latley is parts + parts kits to make rifles. the only problem is that there are ALOT of companies selling these, so there would be alot of competition in that market.

im still looking for a good supplier of CHEAP barrel blanks. i dont like spending hundreds of $$ on a pipe for a proj that is experimental and i dont even know if it will work out. so far the ONLY supplier i can find is numrich, and they seem to be spotty on item availibility.

$25 for .50 bp bbls and $12-18 .22lr bbls are a good start, id like to see some .308/.243/.223 blanks at a reasonable price for experimentation.

i just dont know if there are enough people like me to make stocking something like this worth it for you.

I just don't know of many shooters that have access to a lathe. Also, depending on the material and the rifling method, cutting the outside of the barrel can cause the bore to expand or change shape. You have to know what you are doing. From your work, it looks like you do. I just haven't run across anyone else like you. Numrich is a problem because they buy parts from manufacturers that go belly up. So when the supply runs out, its gone for good. Sometimes they get overruns, but you have to be lucky to be there before someone else buys them up. I design my own barrel profiles in a solid modeling program and then send them off to a couple of different barrel makers. They generate the CNC code from my models and will cut me barrels one or two at a time. That's the best way for me to solve the problem. What I need is a stock maker that is willing to make a new design, out of wood. I often ask them to use a cheap wood for the prototype and just rough it out so I can see if the concept is going to work. I get a lot of cold shoulders or really expensive quotes.

I remember the days when I was the engineer at a company with multiple CNC mills and lathes. I could get anything I wanted prototyped overnight by truly skilled human beings. Unfortunately, we weren't in the gun business, but they would do anything on the night shift I asked and the big boss didn't have to know. Back then, my priorities were much different than now. That goes into my "missed opportunity" file.